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.admin.policy Discussions of site administration policies.comp.ai Artificial intelligence discussions.comp.ai.alife Research about artificial life.comp.ai.fuzzy Fuzzy set theory, aka fuzzy logic.comp.ai.genetic Genetic algorithms in computing.comp.ai.jair.announce Announcements & abstracts of the Journal of AI Research.(Moderated)comp.ai.jair.papers Papers published by the Journal of AI Research.(Moderated)However, when you get down to the alt groups, you'll notice that there is no "official" description for some of them orrather, that some of them will have "joke" descriptions.Here's an excerpt from one of the various unofficial listings:alt.artcom Artistic Community, arts & communication.alt.arts.ballet All aspects of ballet & modern dance as performing art.alt.ascii-art Pictures composed of ASCII characters.alt.ascii-art.animation Movies composed of ASCII characters.alt.asian-movies Movies from Hong Kong, Taiwan and the Chinese mainland.alt.astrology Twinkle, twinkle, little planet.alt.atari-jaguar.discussion As opposed to simply alt.atari.jaguar.alt.atari.2600 The Atari 2600 game system, not 2600 Magazine.alt.atheism Godless heathens.alt.atheism.moderated Focused Godless heathens.(Moderated)alt.atheism.satire Atheism-related humour and satire.alt.authorware About Authorware, produced by Authorware.So subtle.alt.autos.antique Discussion of all facets of older automobiles.alt.autos.camaro.firebird A couple of American sports cars.alt.autos.rod-n-custom Vehicles with modified engines and/or appearance.alt.backrubs Lower.to the right.aaaah!http://docs.rinet.ru/ITricks/tig09.htm (7 of 18) [4/18/1999 12:39:20 AM] Tricks of the Internet Gurus tig09.htmalt.banjo Someone's in the kitchen with Dinah.No newsgroup is ever "on topic" 100 percent of the time, so don't be surprised to find that the people in an automobilegroup are all discussing Flintstones reruns.There is no rule that says people have to discuss what anyone wants them to,except for peer pressure at least in the unmoderated groups.(The moderated groups carry fewer articles because thechatter generally isn't permitted there.) Also, some groups on the list might be ones that nobody's posted anything to inmonths.Even with 9,251 groups (at my site, at this moment your mileage may vary), you may still want to discuss something forwhich there is no group.If, after slaving away with the preceding methods, you can't find a place for the topic, and nobodyelse can, and you think there's a need for a new group.I feel a section heading coming on.Creating a New GroupEver wonder where the dozen or so new groups that appear every day are coming from? (About a week ago, three thousandarrived at once here, due to circumstances beyond anyone's control!) There's a special kind of "control" article called anewgroup.When a Usenet article is posted with the proper headers, it spreads around the world alerting all the computeroperators that someone wants a new group to be added, and then they get to decide whether to make it available at their siteor not.Note: This is different from the problem of adding an existing group to your site.This section discusses how to createa new group.If you want to read an existing group but can't get to it at your site if you try to read rec.sport.football.pro butit's not there" 97Äwhat you should do is to ask your site's administrator or operator to add it, usually with the addgroupcommand.Now, back to our story.If you were to just type in a newgroup control message (let's say you're creating rec.sport.mud-wrestling) and send it out,most likely nothing would happen because there are rules you're supposed to follow or at least guidelines and if youdon't follow them, the administrators of thousands of sites will just ignore you.(Even if a few of them add the group at theirsites, articles in the group won't be able to travel from those sites to others; you need to get the group on a large percentageof sites before articles can flow around the world with ease.)The aforementioned rules govern the "main" ("Big Seven") Usenet hierarchies, which are comp.*, news.*, soc.*, sci.*,rec.*, talk.*, and misc.*.The guidelines govern the "alternative" hierarchy, alt.*, where anything goes, sort of.For otherhierarchies the special-purpose ones like bionet.*, clari.*, and so forth, and the regional ones like de.* (Germany), fr.*(France), capdist.* (Schenectady/Albany/Troy), different situations apply in each case.Getting a new group created in the main hierarchies the "Big Seven" is quite a challenge.First the idea should bediscussed in groups related to your topic.Next a Request For Discussion (RFD, sometimes CFD for "Call"), that outlinesthe proposed group, should be drawn up and posted to news.announce.newgroups (which is moderated) as well asnews.groups and the places where the idea was discussed.Now more discussion in news.groups.At this stage there willlikely be a flamewar with people who feel we don't need a new group arguing with people who think the proposed grouphas a bad name.(Take a peek into news.groups sometime if you want to experience the thrill of being a flamewar spectator;it's like alt.flame but slightly more intelligent.) About a month after the RFD is posted, you can hold a vote (for anothermonth) where the object is to get 100 more "yes" votes than "no" votes, and the "yes" votes must outnumber the "no" votesby a factor of two.After the voting, the results will be posted (a list of who voted for what) and another flamewar will ensuein which random people claim there was vote fraud.If the group's vote was dominated by the "yes" people, the moderator ofnews.announce.newgroups (currently David Lawrence, mentioned earlier the busiest person on Usenet) will issue thenewgroup message.Whew.And that's just the tip of the iceberg! For a full list of rules, see "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup," and forsome more tips, "Newsgroup Creation Companion"; these articles are posted periodically to news.answers and otherprominent places.(All the important FAQs and periodic postings are repeated in news.answers; news.newusers.questionsalso gets some of the most important ones.)http://docs.rinet.ru/ITricks/tig09.htm (8 of 18) [4/18/1999 12:39:20 AM] Tricks of the Internet Gurus tig09.htmWhat this all boils down to is that whenever you suggest a new group for the Big Seven, there will be a lot of people whohave an opinion as to whether it should or should not be created and they will argue vociferously (and some of them aregood at it because the same people do it for almost every proposed group).It's quite a pain.For alt.* groups, there are no hard-and-fast rules, but the days where anyone can issue a newgroup message and have itwork are long gone due to there being over 1600 alt.* groups at the moment, operators are getting rather reluctant to addevery alt.i-hate-barney-the-dinosaur.kill.kill.kill.die.die.die that someone sends down the pipe.alt.* is often where groupsthat don't make it into in the Big Seven are banished.Some of the most popular groups, like the alt.sex.* hierarchy, are inalt.* (as is my favorite, alt.religion.kibology).Some are moderated, but most are unmoderated, as elsewhere.The procedurefor creating a new alt.* group is similar to that for Big Seven, except there's no voting and discussion should take place inalt.config, not news.announce.newgroups or news.groups.(Why is it alt.config and not alt.groups? I don't know either.) Basically, the group should be suggested and discussed inalt [ Pobierz caÅ‚ość w formacie PDF ]
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.admin.policy Discussions of site administration policies.comp.ai Artificial intelligence discussions.comp.ai.alife Research about artificial life.comp.ai.fuzzy Fuzzy set theory, aka fuzzy logic.comp.ai.genetic Genetic algorithms in computing.comp.ai.jair.announce Announcements & abstracts of the Journal of AI Research.(Moderated)comp.ai.jair.papers Papers published by the Journal of AI Research.(Moderated)However, when you get down to the alt groups, you'll notice that there is no "official" description for some of them orrather, that some of them will have "joke" descriptions.Here's an excerpt from one of the various unofficial listings:alt.artcom Artistic Community, arts & communication.alt.arts.ballet All aspects of ballet & modern dance as performing art.alt.ascii-art Pictures composed of ASCII characters.alt.ascii-art.animation Movies composed of ASCII characters.alt.asian-movies Movies from Hong Kong, Taiwan and the Chinese mainland.alt.astrology Twinkle, twinkle, little planet.alt.atari-jaguar.discussion As opposed to simply alt.atari.jaguar.alt.atari.2600 The Atari 2600 game system, not 2600 Magazine.alt.atheism Godless heathens.alt.atheism.moderated Focused Godless heathens.(Moderated)alt.atheism.satire Atheism-related humour and satire.alt.authorware About Authorware, produced by Authorware.So subtle.alt.autos.antique Discussion of all facets of older automobiles.alt.autos.camaro.firebird A couple of American sports cars.alt.autos.rod-n-custom Vehicles with modified engines and/or appearance.alt.backrubs Lower.to the right.aaaah!http://docs.rinet.ru/ITricks/tig09.htm (7 of 18) [4/18/1999 12:39:20 AM] Tricks of the Internet Gurus tig09.htmalt.banjo Someone's in the kitchen with Dinah.No newsgroup is ever "on topic" 100 percent of the time, so don't be surprised to find that the people in an automobilegroup are all discussing Flintstones reruns.There is no rule that says people have to discuss what anyone wants them to,except for peer pressure at least in the unmoderated groups.(The moderated groups carry fewer articles because thechatter generally isn't permitted there.) Also, some groups on the list might be ones that nobody's posted anything to inmonths.Even with 9,251 groups (at my site, at this moment your mileage may vary), you may still want to discuss something forwhich there is no group.If, after slaving away with the preceding methods, you can't find a place for the topic, and nobodyelse can, and you think there's a need for a new group.I feel a section heading coming on.Creating a New GroupEver wonder where the dozen or so new groups that appear every day are coming from? (About a week ago, three thousandarrived at once here, due to circumstances beyond anyone's control!) There's a special kind of "control" article called anewgroup.When a Usenet article is posted with the proper headers, it spreads around the world alerting all the computeroperators that someone wants a new group to be added, and then they get to decide whether to make it available at their siteor not.Note: This is different from the problem of adding an existing group to your site.This section discusses how to createa new group.If you want to read an existing group but can't get to it at your site if you try to read rec.sport.football.pro butit's not there" 97Äwhat you should do is to ask your site's administrator or operator to add it, usually with the addgroupcommand.Now, back to our story.If you were to just type in a newgroup control message (let's say you're creating rec.sport.mud-wrestling) and send it out,most likely nothing would happen because there are rules you're supposed to follow or at least guidelines and if youdon't follow them, the administrators of thousands of sites will just ignore you.(Even if a few of them add the group at theirsites, articles in the group won't be able to travel from those sites to others; you need to get the group on a large percentageof sites before articles can flow around the world with ease.)The aforementioned rules govern the "main" ("Big Seven") Usenet hierarchies, which are comp.*, news.*, soc.*, sci.*,rec.*, talk.*, and misc.*.The guidelines govern the "alternative" hierarchy, alt.*, where anything goes, sort of.For otherhierarchies the special-purpose ones like bionet.*, clari.*, and so forth, and the regional ones like de.* (Germany), fr.*(France), capdist.* (Schenectady/Albany/Troy), different situations apply in each case.Getting a new group created in the main hierarchies the "Big Seven" is quite a challenge.First the idea should bediscussed in groups related to your topic.Next a Request For Discussion (RFD, sometimes CFD for "Call"), that outlinesthe proposed group, should be drawn up and posted to news.announce.newgroups (which is moderated) as well asnews.groups and the places where the idea was discussed.Now more discussion in news.groups.At this stage there willlikely be a flamewar with people who feel we don't need a new group arguing with people who think the proposed grouphas a bad name.(Take a peek into news.groups sometime if you want to experience the thrill of being a flamewar spectator;it's like alt.flame but slightly more intelligent.) About a month after the RFD is posted, you can hold a vote (for anothermonth) where the object is to get 100 more "yes" votes than "no" votes, and the "yes" votes must outnumber the "no" votesby a factor of two.After the voting, the results will be posted (a list of who voted for what) and another flamewar will ensuein which random people claim there was vote fraud.If the group's vote was dominated by the "yes" people, the moderator ofnews.announce.newgroups (currently David Lawrence, mentioned earlier the busiest person on Usenet) will issue thenewgroup message.Whew.And that's just the tip of the iceberg! For a full list of rules, see "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup," and forsome more tips, "Newsgroup Creation Companion"; these articles are posted periodically to news.answers and otherprominent places.(All the important FAQs and periodic postings are repeated in news.answers; news.newusers.questionsalso gets some of the most important ones.)http://docs.rinet.ru/ITricks/tig09.htm (8 of 18) [4/18/1999 12:39:20 AM] Tricks of the Internet Gurus tig09.htmWhat this all boils down to is that whenever you suggest a new group for the Big Seven, there will be a lot of people whohave an opinion as to whether it should or should not be created and they will argue vociferously (and some of them aregood at it because the same people do it for almost every proposed group).It's quite a pain.For alt.* groups, there are no hard-and-fast rules, but the days where anyone can issue a newgroup message and have itwork are long gone due to there being over 1600 alt.* groups at the moment, operators are getting rather reluctant to addevery alt.i-hate-barney-the-dinosaur.kill.kill.kill.die.die.die that someone sends down the pipe.alt.* is often where groupsthat don't make it into in the Big Seven are banished.Some of the most popular groups, like the alt.sex.* hierarchy, are inalt.* (as is my favorite, alt.religion.kibology).Some are moderated, but most are unmoderated, as elsewhere.The procedurefor creating a new alt.* group is similar to that for Big Seven, except there's no voting and discussion should take place inalt.config, not news.announce.newgroups or news.groups.(Why is it alt.config and not alt.groups? I don't know either.) Basically, the group should be suggested and discussed inalt [ Pobierz caÅ‚ość w formacie PDF ]